The response to my query to ChatGPT cut and pasted here:
The comparison between Trumpism/MAGA and fascism is contentious but important. Scholars, historians, and political theorists have debated it extensively. While Trumpism is not identical to historical fascism (like Mussolini’s Italy or Hitler’s Germany), it does overlap with several key features of fascism, especially in its modern or "soft" forms. Let’s break this down across key dimensions:
🔑 1. Leader-Centric Nationalism
Fascism: Strong, charismatic leader as embodiment of the nation.
Trumpism/MAGA: Trump is portrayed as a singular savior figure. Loyalty to him often supersedes allegiance to institutions or party norms.
✅ Clear parallel.
🔑 2. Populism and Anti-Elitism
Fascism: Presents itself as the true voice of the people against a corrupt elite.
Trumpism/MAGA: Frames Trump as a champion of "forgotten Americans" against the "deep state," media, and coastal elites.
✅ Strong overlap.
🔑 3. Mythic Past and National Decline
Fascism: Glorifies a mythic past and promises national rebirth.
Trumpism/MAGA: “Make America Great Again” implies a lost greatness that must be restored.
✅ Ideologically aligned.
🔑 4. Cultivation of Enemies and Scapegoats
Fascism: Identifies internal enemies (Jews, communists, etc.) as threats to national purity.
Trumpism/MAGA: Targets immigrants, Muslims, LGBTQ+ rights movements, and political opponents as existential threats.
⚠️ Partial alignment, but lacks the full institutionalized violence of classic fascism.
🔑 5. Militant Masculinity and Authoritarian Style
Fascism: Emphasizes force, virility, discipline, and authoritarian order.
Trumpism/MAGA: Embraces macho posturing, disdain for compromise, admiration of authoritarian leaders (e.g., Putin, Orban).
✅ Marked similarity.
🔑 6. Disdain for Democracy and Rule of Law
Fascism: Undermines or abolishes democratic institutions.
Trumpism/MAGA: Undermines electoral integrity (e.g., January 6), attacks judiciary and press, calls for suspending the Constitution.
⚠️ Not full fascism, but democratic backsliding is evident.
🔑 7. Use of Propaganda and Alternate Realities
Fascism: Relies on propaganda, conspiracy theories, and control of media.
Trumpism/MAGA: Promotes “fake news” narrative, discredits media, spreads conspiracy (QAnon, election denialism).
✅ High degree of overlap.
🔑 8. Militia and Paramilitary Support
Fascism: Cultivates extrajudicial violence through party militias.
Trumpism/MAGA: Encourages groups like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers; tolerates political violence (e.g., Jan 6).
⚠️ Echoes fascism, though less centralized or state-directed.
🧭 Summary Assessment
FeatureTrumpism vs. FascismLeader worship✅ AlignedPopulism & anti-elitism✅ AlignedMythic past/national decline✅ AlignedScapegoating & enemies⚠️ PartialAuthoritarian style✅ AlignedAnti-democracy tendencies⚠️ PartialPropaganda & disinfo✅ AlignedParamilitary tactics⚠️ Partial
📚 Scholarly Views
Robert Paxton (The Anatomy of Fascism): Identifies early signs of fascism in movements that scapegoat minorities, reject democratic norms, and exalt a singular leader.
Jason Stanley (How Fascism Works): Argues Trumpism fits many patterns of fascist politics, especially propaganda, fearmongering, and attacks on truth.
Madeleine Albright (Fascism: A Warning): Says it’s not fascism yet, but warns of the slippery slope.
🧠 Final Thought
Trumpism is not classical fascism, but it maps closely onto modern authoritarian populism with fascist tendencies. Whether it crosses fully into fascism depends on whether these traits become more systematic and institutionalized—particularly through suppression of opposition, judicial capture, and normalization of political violence.
The image is of a Fascist rally in Naples in 1922
Fascinating, I asked a similar question of Grok and got a similar answer, some fascist characteristics but not there yet. But I also asked two further questions both rather revealing, and worrying.
First could you call Trump a demagogue, both answered yes.
Second and more interesting, and worrying, what were the steps necessary for Trump to become a fascist leader,in order of importance:
Summary Table
Step Toward Fascism Trump’s Position So Far
Undermine elections ✅ 2020 election denial; loyalty-based candidate picks
Capture judiciary ⚠️ Made lasting appointments; partial influence
Erode rule of law ⚠️ Pressured DOJ, pardoned allies, attacked institutions
Suppress media/dissent ✅ Constant attacks on press, praise for state TV abroad
Militarize domestic politics ⚠️ Encouraged violence; armed group support
Co-opt military ❌ Met resistance; military opposed 2020 protest action
Promote ultranationalist identity ✅ Ethno-nationalist rhetoric, Muslim ban, wall rhetoric
Bypass Congress. ⚠️ Frequent EOs; limited by courts and political reality
Exploit crises ⚠️ Used COVID, crime, and immigration as fear levers
Build personality cult ✅ MAGA movement, loyalty tests, anti-traitor rhetoric
So now we know what to look out for!
But it is worth remembering that both ChatGPT and Grok are trained off of what’s on the internet so they are only reflections of humanities thoughts.